tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post9081836640601853193..comments2024-03-27T10:53:49.833+00:00Comments on Ex-Christadelphians: COMMENT OF THE WEEK - "CHRISTO LEGALISM v GRACE AND THE TRUTH"Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-85137047032252124872017-09-16T11:00:25.231+01:002017-09-16T11:00:25.231+01:00Jeff,
You write "...I`m...free from the sting...Jeff,<br />You write "...I`m...free from the sting of death...as Christ has informed me...."<br /><br />The problem I find with that Jeff, is that Christ did not inform you. Christ did not write that. Someone else wrote that, and we don`t who it was, and we don`t know from whom or where the writer obtained that hearsay,(or whether it was an idea of his own), and we don`t know when, and we do not know why. And whoever wrote it would appear to have had an agenda of their own.<br /><br />And how could it have been a looking forward to that which included you (or me) some 2000 years or so in the future? It`s a really nice and comforting thought that death is not the end for us, but should it be used as the basis for a future hope during this life, on such flimsy unsubstantiated information? Is it morally right that it ever be used as a stick with which to beat those who don`t accept it?<br /><br />Could you bring yourself to read Bart Ehrman`s book "Forged"? You almost certainly won`t agree with his findings, but you might actually find it one of the books that you...(do)...find a fascinating read.<br /><br />May the fish of truth swim to your rod of understanding.Mancottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-28544833138666825412017-09-16T10:22:20.985+01:002017-09-16T10:22:20.985+01:00Hi Jeff,
Thanks for your response. I think you mea...Hi Jeff,<br />Thanks for your response. I think you meant to write "as I don`t find" rather than "as I do find", referring to any fascination you you might or might not find in reading books. Sometimes, reading your responses to Steve, I feel you might benefit from "loosening up" a little. Try reading P.G.Wodehouse, the Jeeves or the Blanding novels, but not when on your boat, because you might fall off laughing.<br />Anyway, good to learn of some of your interests. No doubt you find fishing an ideal occupation in which to do a lot of thinking.Mancottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-6123133434986811302017-09-14T19:02:25.954+01:002017-09-14T19:02:25.954+01:00Steve,
I don`t take Jeff`s comments personally, I ...Steve,<br />I don`t take Jeff`s comments personally, I just feel he is taking up too much of your time and effort to reply to him, because he is clearly so stuck within his bubble that it would take a very large and sharp axe-argument to free him. I don`t believe he should be banned, I just think that your thoughtful, polite and lengthy responses are wasted on him. I can`t imagine what anyone reading these comments from him, who hasn`t had the background benefit of understanding about where he has come from and gotten into, can think of him. I do in fact feel sorry for him, for his mind is surely in such an indoctrinated state, that he`ll probably be there in ignorance of anything other, for the rest of his life. In any case, freeing someone such as Jeff might be dangerous for his mental state. Any freeing must come from himself.Mancottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-46745604873614287932017-09-14T13:39:06.591+01:002017-09-14T13:39:06.591+01:00As you say, Steve, "One can hope". But I...As you say, Steve, "One can hope". But I don`t think that we shall read about any change from Jeff. It`s not very pleasant to read his constantly trotted out repeated, heartless and misguided beliefs. Love? Caring for one`s fellow human being? I don`t detect any. Is it not time to move on from Jeff? Or do we give up after 490 of our replies? Mancottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-26589665481799875322017-09-13T08:40:46.567+01:002017-09-13T08:40:46.567+01:00Jeff,
You don`t have to reply to this if you don`t...Jeff,<br />You don`t have to reply to this if you don`t wish to, but, apart from the bible, do you read other books, and if so which? Fiction, non-fiction, any examples? The reason I ask is that I once knew someone who would read only the bible, and he came over to me just as you do. I hope you consider this as a nice comment, for as such it is intended.Mancottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-90837395257189964822017-09-12T19:15:43.429+01:002017-09-12T19:15:43.429+01:00Having read Jeff`s posts I`m struck by the fact of...Having read Jeff`s posts I`m struck by the fact of his using many biblical references to support what he is trying to put over. No doubt he does this because he believes that the references he uses are to be taken as"Truth". But he ignores the truth that many of those words can not be said to be certain of being in the original writings. Steve has already pointed out that the story of the woman taken in adultery, for example, is not found in earlier copies of the text - it`s been added later by someone trying to make a point. And there are many other discrepancies, which if Jeff was to admit (or find out about) are there, then he might be more cautious in using his many references as "truth". Many of us have once been in Jeff`s shoes, where at one time we vehemently defended our beliefs (indoctrinated beliefs) as being "truth". Subsequently, either by application of intellect, or a gradual return to rational reasoning, we have found our erstwhile embedded beliefs to have been built on shaky sand and not upon the rock we first thought they were founded. It is unlikely that Jeff will change his views, and we who once saw through a glass darkly, and now see clearly, will be left frustrated by his inability to see as we do. Mancottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-29227339133897107542017-09-11T03:58:49.220+01:002017-09-11T03:58:49.220+01:00God gave the Jews divorce "for the hardness o...God gave the Jews divorce "for the hardness of their hearts"? I can't remember where the Jews asked for it. It just seems to pop up as part of the Law that was given with the rest of it by God, almost as if it was a "normal" {aspro and a lie down if that is too much) procedure. Richard the Chickenhearthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17686712268528688958noreply@blogger.com