tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post7248392942128758830..comments2024-03-27T10:53:49.833+00:00Comments on Ex-Christadelphians: The Ten Commandments.Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-14963097910456162072009-07-02T13:38:48.037+01:002009-07-02T13:38:48.037+01:00There are a lot of assumptions in that argument. ...There are a lot of assumptions in that argument. I'm particularly unconvinced by the statement that believing it is based on falsehood makes you objective. However, much of what you say I can't disagree with. It is clear that many of the books of the Bible have an editorial hand. While we disagree about the extent of that editing and the time of the editing, to deny it would be folly. Similarly, there are a number of places where we can observe apparent copying errors. We may disagree on the number, but to deny it would be folly. They are there. The Septuagint and the Dead Sea Scrolls do disagree in places from the Masoretic text, and they can't all be right. Come to the NT, and the number of manuscripts and variants is highly surprising to those who have been brought up to think that the words in their Bible are clearly the word of God translated from one original and authoritative text.<br><br>You can surely believe that I would far prefer it to be clear and obvious, with a perfectly preserved text that came down from heaven and could be viewed without doubt as the word of God (written on gold plates perhaps?) However, I think that it is part of God's purpose to leave some things that require faith and belief. There is much in the Bible that is very difficult to prove, and I'm not so sure that it is worth trying, because a record like the Bible must require some faith. I'm happy to give reasons why I believe it (though not now - I'm too busy), but to go from that to absolute proof is hard. [I will note that obtaining absolute proof for other beliefs is also difficult, and sometimes subjective].Jon Morganhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13434834424707954610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-52777850582187487532009-06-28T17:04:59.767+01:002009-06-28T17:04:59.767+01:00It is likely that the book of Deuteronomy was writ...It is likely that the book of Deuteronomy was written to reconcile these and other contradictions.Corkyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-75030825899408883692009-06-28T16:35:23.458+01:002009-06-28T16:35:23.458+01:00Then what about the ten commandments in Ex. 34 tha...Then what about the ten commandments in Ex. 34 that were also written on tablets of stone?<br><br>Since they are different than the ten commandments in Ex. 20, then there must be two sets of ten commandments written in stone.<br><br>Actually, the set in Ex. 20 was not written on tablets of stone but were spoken (Ex. 20:1).Corkyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-13945997111188858132009-06-27T20:36:37.238+01:002009-06-27T20:36:37.238+01:00So Jon, you are saying we have 2 sets of ten comma...So Jon, you are saying we have 2 sets of ten commandments engraved in stone? Or, does Deut. make it 3 sets? <br><br>Which one of the three sets is the actual, real set of ten commandments? <br><br>According to Jesus the first commandment is "thou shalt love the Lord thy God" and the second one is "like unto it" and is "Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself"<br><br>So there must be another set that we don't know about?Corkyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15894537940881776504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-463445167640495548.post-16308000317978300322009-06-24T10:03:44.763+01:002009-06-24T10:03:44.763+01:00And don't forget, there's an entirely DIFF...And don't forget, there's an entirely DIFFERENT set of "commandments", in the New Testament "sermon on the mount".<br><br>As Richard Dawkins likes to ask (paraphrasing), "Do these people never open the book they put so much belief in?"<br><br>Hm. I guess that's what ministurds are for.....Purple Hymnalhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13849574661844787245noreply@blogger.com