To those who say that we should respect the Christadelphians

By John Bedson

There are some in the Ex-Christadelphian movement who think that we should be respectful to the Christadelphians. It is my view that this is a naïve opinion to hold. 

The Christadelphians show no respect for us when they ban us from their websites, spread lies and false rumours about us and refuse to engage with us.

They show no respect for their own members when they disfellowship them for trivial reasons like not attending, marrying out of the faith, remarrying after a divorce or becoming uncertain of their faith. They show no respect for each other when they hurl insults at each other over not believing in the theory of evolution and a myriad other disagreements.

They show no respect for other Christadelphian fellowships when the Amended and Unamended are split over a miniscule difference of opinion on an obscure and irrelevant issue of Scriptural interpretation.

They show no respect for their neighbours and decent society whom they contemptuously dismiss as "The Gentile World."

They show no respect for democracy when they refuse to vote.

They show no respect for their country and for those who gave their lives for our freedoms when they refuse to join the armed forces or serve in the police.

They show no respect for justice and the rule of law when they refuse jury service.

They show no respect for their own children and young people when they indoctrinate them into their cult or shun and disown them if they refuse baptism.

They show no respect for the freedom of speech of their offspring when they order them to not write on this website.

The official position of the Christadelphian Church is that they want us murdered when Christ returns. Moreover they not only want us killed, but they want us to die a tortured, excruciatingly painful death.

Of course it's not going to happen, because Christadelphian beliefs are only a collection of unenlightened, superstitious fantasies with no empirical evidence in support. But that does not alter the fact that when they think of our future, these people have murder in their hearts.

Humans tend to judge others by their own standards and they think that other people have the same moral constraints as themselves. This is a natural mistake for us to make when we Ex-Christadelphians think about our brethren and sisters who we have left behind trapped in a corrupt religion. We reject their religion and their behaviour because we found their religion to be false and their behaviour to be objectionable.

Ex-Christadelphians are substantially better people than Christadelphians. We are enlightened and our morality is no longer contaminated by the philosophy of a primitive tribal Canaanite religion mixed with the harsh, legalistic pharisaic dogma of the apostle Paul. But we must never lose sight of the fact that these poor people are not like us. They don't think like us. There is no reason for us to have any respect for them. 

Christadelphians think that the entire Bible is inspired and inerrant. They think and believe what Paul wrote in Hebrews chapter 10:

26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.

28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:

29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people.

31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

Read those words again and read them carefully. Beneath the smiling lies that they tell in their books, off their platforms and on this website; this is what they actually think and believe. If it were not an insane fantasy, it could be construed as conspiracy to commit murder.

And it's not merely murder that Paul and his Christadelphian brethren and sisters have planned for us Ex-Christadelphians. Paul says that those who "despised Moses' law died without mercy." They were burned or stoned to death by a baying mob. The Christadelphians want us to suffer a "much sorer punishment" than the agonising deaths inflicted on ancient Hebrews who believed in free speech and independent thought.

The Catholic Church discovered that boiling heretics alive in scalding oil was a "much sorer punishment" than merely burning their flesh in fire. Victims often suffocated in the smoke of fire and the priests had their vindictive pleasure cut short by the premature deaths of Ex-Catholics. We will have to wait to discover the "much sorer punishment" proposed by Paul and the Christadelphians for Ex-Christadelphians following the return of Christ. However Paul hints that it is going to be some form of "fiery indignation" so it is unlikely to involve air conditioning.

My article on "'Christendom Astray' chapter 15 demonstrates that Christadelphians believe that they will inflict a genocidal horror on the world's population and appropriate the "treasure" of the rich for themselves when Christ returns.

"The population of the world will be greatly thinned"

- Roberts wrote, with a nonchalant air of superiority reminiscent of Adolf Eichmann in the Tel Aviv courtroom in 1962; before his ashes were thrown into the Mediterranean sea by relatives of his Jewish victims.

 "......leaving a residue composed of the meek and submissive, and well–disposed of mankind, who will constitute the willing subjects of Messiah's kingdom."

- He continues; as if he were Hitler planning Operation Barbarossa in 1940.

This is the writing of someone who was criminally insane. He was inspired by the philosophy of a Bible that condones the taking of female virgins in war to be sex slaves for the Hebrews (Numbers 31) and the stoning to death of raped women and brides who were not virgins. (Deuteronomy 22). A God who both created the entire universe and who later watched with quiet satisfaction while his own son was needlessly crucified.

I will show no respect to a book that contains such abominable filth and I have not one ounce of respect for a religion that believes such corruption to be the inspired work of the power that created the galaxies.

I was once as ethically dysfunctional and unenlightened as the Christadelphians. I once proclaimed their evil poison from platforms, in booklets and on film. But I had the courage to see the error of my ways and repent. Now I stand against their evil and encourage rational and enlightened thinking amongst my brethren and sisters that I left.

Trapped in the group delusion they mostly fail to see the good sense and reason that I am offering to them. However a growing trickle of the wise amongst them are comprehending my message and peeling away from the religion.

I have not a shred of respect for the Christadelphians who ignore my message of enlightenment. Neither do I feel anger or bitterness.

Christadelphians; listen to me carefully because I am only going to write this once:

I feel pity for you.

Now end your foolish behaviour and deconvert.  


  1. Hi John

    I am very sorry to hear you feel that way about Christadelphians or anyone who believes in the bible for that matter (doesn't matter if they are Christadelphians or not after all the bible contains the Truth not just Christadelphiansl). All I can say is I will pray for you bother.
    May Christ return soon and then all sorrow and sighing will flee away.

    1. //All I can say is I will pray for you bother.//

      I'm sorry to hear that praying is such a bother :P

      Seriously though, dare I ask what the point of that would be?
      Let's think about prayer for a minute or two...

      Is God perfect?
      If yes, wouldn't your prayer mean you thought you knew better than God?

      Does God make mistakes?

      Is God not aware of John's views?
      If not, he wouldn't be all-knowing.
      If yes, why do you need to pray?

      Do you think God can change John's views?
      Of course, if he couldn't, he wouldn't be all-powerful.
      Do you think God wants to change John's views?
      If yes, why has he not already done so?
      Was he waiting for your prayer? Why?
      If he did not want to change John's views, why do you think your prayer would make a difference?

      If God listened to your prayer and acted on it, does that mean your idea was more perfect than what God would otherwise have done? or did God become a little less perfect by following your idea instead of his own?

      Let's think even bigger...
      If God already knows everything John will do, and he knew it all before John was born, where did your prayer factor in?

      Of course, there are compatibilists who insist that free will is compatible with God's foreknowledge. But there's something they missed...

      If God already knows the future, then God has no free will. If God has no free will, then he didn't, and couldn't, choose anything, nor change anything. Again, where does your prayer factor in?

      But maybe you still believe in prayer. Then answer me this...

      If you pray for John, and John still does not believe, does that mean your prayer wasn't answered? or does it mean God didn't want John to believe?

      I'd love to hear your response...

    2. Too many questions, Steve. Can't you just accept that the Bible tells the unknown him or her that they should pray, and so they do? :)

      That said, more liberal Christadelphians usually end up answering these kind of question with something like "Even if my prayer doesn't change the world, it still has an effect on me, so it's still good for God to ask me to pray". I'm not sure that answer applies so well here, though maybe it's meant to make Unknown more forgiving of John.

    3. I absolutely think prayer produces a placebo effect. Where I differ with believers is that they think it does something more than that.

      So far the scientific studies all agree with me, or perhaps it's the other way round.


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