The End is Near!

Well, here we are at the end of another year . . . and still no Jesus descending with a shout.

Look folks, if we are going to end this thing in 2012, shouldn't the 3 1/2 year great tribulation have already started?

It has to be the "last days" here at this particular "end time" because the mockers and the scoffers are on the increase (like they were back in about 65 AD). Want to bet that there won't be more mockers and scoffers after 2012?

Yes, the old mockers and scoffers, without them we couldn't really tell that it's about time for Jesus to return but just as true today as it was then:

2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

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  1. TricksascoffaphobiaJanuary 1, 2009 at 3:52 AM

    2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

    This, sadly and of course, was written because the disappoints were getting more and more pronounced and faithful more and more skeptical.

    They had to be blamed and told that time is not the same for God as for humans. That got Church and Apostles off the hook for using words like, "shortly" and "soon" It's never the simple fact that we messed up and were wrong. The people just misderestimate God and the Church and the message broght by the minisry

    God bless the scoffers. They keep the Profits on their toes or ass depending.

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  2. According to Ron Weinland, the Great Tribulation started on Dec 14. But it might be up to a year before we can tell that it's going on.

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  3. Tricksascoffaphobia said...
    2Pe 3:4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.

    This, sadly and of course, was written because the disappoints were getting more and more pronounced and faithful more and more skeptical.


    It was probably also written after all the apostles were dead, that is, if Jude is talking about the same scoffers:

    Jud 1:17 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ;
    Jud 1:18 How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

    Here the apostles are all past tense and all. Now along comes the mockers.

    Heh heh, It's kinda like all the mockers of HWA and the WCG when he kicked the bucket before Jesus returned and here we are, walking after our "own ungodly lusts".

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  4. History tells us that it required 7years for Solomon to build temple #1. IIRC, it required more than that for Hasmonean Herod to restore the temple (#2), so that it would be around for the lifetime of Jesus, and the fulfilling of assorted prophecies.

    How can the end come when there isn't even a temple, and the temple mount is under the control of the Jordanians? These funny pseudo prophets don't know their history, or biblical prophecy! That doesn't prevent them from using their theories as a tithe phishing scheme, though! If they really want some serious cred, they should stop imitating O.G. (original Gangsta) HWA!

    BB

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  5. Corky

    I don't know if you are brave or stupid ... I think I'll go with stupid.

    Chris

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  6. Hey Bob,

    I don't know if you have ever thought about it but the 3rd temple, according to the NT, has already been built (I Cor. 3:16-17).

    Mar 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

    Was that a false witness? Not according to Paul in the Corinthian passage.

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  7. There is figurative, and there is literal. Jesus was speaking of his body, and Paul was speaking of our bodies as Christians. So, yes, in a figurative way the third temple has been built. And, of course, someone is bound to mention Zerubabel's temple, too.

    But, you need a literal temple for animal sacrifices to be taking place. Just as Jerusalem needs to exist and to be in the hands of the Jews for end time prophecies to be fulfilled.

    It's kind of exciting when you think about it, having something like this to wait and see if it happens in our lifetimes, especially now that we know that the evils of Armstrongism are not going to contaminate it.

    BB

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  8. Bob, Bob, Bob,

    Concerning OT sacrifices, please see Hebrews 10:1-12.

    The Levitical Priesthood is no more, therefore the Levitical sacrifices cannot be reinstituted.

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  9. Tradition has it that many of the descendents of the Levites are those with the surname "Cohen".

    Actually, Jesus himself said in Matt. 23:39 that Israel would not see Him again until they bless those who proclaim Him. Misguided or not, that is why Evangelical Christians spend so much time doing work over in Israel.

    On the topic of animal sacrifices, there is somewhat of a mystery. Theologians wonder why, after Jesus fulfilled the necessity for sacrifices, they would become active again in the millennium.

    BB

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  10. Bob,
    I think the idea of the New Covenant (testament) is that it makes the first covenant (testament) "old".

    In other words, it's considered to be fulfilled. Whatever prophecy or anything left in the OT that is considered by people today to be left unfulfilled is not going to be fulfilled.

    The law and prophets were only until John (Luke 16:16) and everything written in the law and prophets were fulfilled in that generation of 2,000 years ago (Luke 21:22; 24:44).

    Of course, some of the things concerning Jesus was his return and kingdom - which he said himself would be fulfilled in that generation.

    If those things were fulfilled (Jesus' return and kingdom) on the schedule that Jesus and the apostles give, then Preterism is correct. If not, well, it was a failed prophecy and they were mistaken. In which case, atheism would be the correct position.

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